willwin
07-28 01:09 PM
What exactly is the point of this rambling debate? Does anybody really thinks he/she can make an EB2 see the point of view of EB3 or vice-a-versa? No amount of legal/moral/philosophical arguments is going to convince the other party and we all know it.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Is that a new division? Active IVians and inactive IVians? LOL
BTW, sorry to say that the active IVians are minority here.
All this debate has done is to bring out the ugliest side of all of us to the surface. There are EB2s claiming every EB2 is by definition superior than EB3 which is insane. And there is an EB3 who is itching to take help of none other than Ron Hira to shot down somebody's GC application as a retribution and couple of people applauding him for the brilliant idea! Really? Do we really thinks this is such a grand idea?
Just accept that everyone's only guiding principle here is self interest and move along. No need to jump through hoops to interpret the immigration law in 101 different ways and no need to call attention to personal suffering and plight. If we do really believe personal suffering should take precedence over everything else on humanitarian grounds then lets all first fight for illegal immigrants since their suffering is much worse than anyone here!
EB3s, go run your campaign and stop trying to appeal to EB2's sense of justice. That will never happen.
EB2s, stop trying to expect EB3s will accept higher EB preference categories should in fact get preference over the lower ones. That will never happen.
The only thing we all can hopefully agree on is, if there is anyone here - doesn't matter EB2 or EB3- who is fiercely debating this but has never contributed to IV and has never participated in any of the previous IV action items in the past that person should just shut up! If you were never active in IV you shouldn't really be talking at this point!!
Is that a new division? Active IVians and inactive IVians? LOL
BTW, sorry to say that the active IVians are minority here.
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ashatara78
05-01 03:21 PM
It is a good point that some people have brought up and I am sure IV core will evaluate it to see if it will help more people or less.
However.........
I strongly believe that family should be together. Whatever GC and other immigration issues we have, one should strive for keeping the family together at all times. Missing out on even a few years of togetherness with your spouse and kids is not worth it.
Even in the current system where dependents come under EB quota, I have known people where one spouse got the GC and the other one had to wait for many years because of a name check or something. But the current laws (EAD/AP etc) made sure that atleast the family was not broken up.
If we are looking for a change or correction of law, we need to make sure that the new law has NO kinks that hinder family staying together. If primary applicant gets a GC and the spouse is still waiting for 5 more years (it is possible), then the primary applicant can get citizenship and apply for a new GC for the secondary. Like I said - This situation is possible even in the current system.
As long as kinks are discussed with the lawyers and smoothened out to preserve family togetherness, it should be fine.
However.........
I strongly believe that family should be together. Whatever GC and other immigration issues we have, one should strive for keeping the family together at all times. Missing out on even a few years of togetherness with your spouse and kids is not worth it.
Even in the current system where dependents come under EB quota, I have known people where one spouse got the GC and the other one had to wait for many years because of a name check or something. But the current laws (EAD/AP etc) made sure that atleast the family was not broken up.
If we are looking for a change or correction of law, we need to make sure that the new law has NO kinks that hinder family staying together. If primary applicant gets a GC and the spouse is still waiting for 5 more years (it is possible), then the primary applicant can get citizenship and apply for a new GC for the secondary. Like I said - This situation is possible even in the current system.
As long as kinks are discussed with the lawyers and smoothened out to preserve family togetherness, it should be fine.
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02-10 02:24 PM
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07-19 09:04 PM
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Libra
07-06 10:38 PM
WOW!! I really feel good and proud to be a member of IV, many members(even seniors) should learn from you guys, instead of critisizing whatever others do, come up with good ideas.
xeixas
09-10 02:33 AM
It looks like prior to this visa bulletin, the DOS was just guessing the dates for the visa bulletins. Hopefully this behavior changes moving forward.
The best example to illustrate this is EB3-ROW:
1) Back in October 2006, this category was on 01MAY02. Very close to where it is right now.
2) DOS was not getting enough visas from USCIS, so they increased the date. By May of 2007 (Same Fiscal Year) the date was 01AUG03.
3) They still didn't get enough visas. So, by June of 2007 they moved it to 01JUN05.
4) The July 07 bulletin happened and after that everything became unavailable.
5) Then in October 2007, when the USCIS had not revised any of the July 07 applications, the DOS still didn't know what to expect, so they went back to 01AUG02.
6) Again, they didn't get enough applications, so they moved the date up. By January 08 they were in 15OCT02. And in Jun, they went all the way to 01JAN06. Then they became unavailable again.
7) In October of 2008 the date was in 01JAN05, which means that USCIS was not done with the July 07 cases and DOS didn't know what to expect. In April of this year they go back to 2003 (some I-485s that were received back in 2007 getting approved?) and then they became unavailable.
8) Now in October 2009 they are back in 2002.
With dates going from 2001 to 2005 then back to 2002 then up to 2006 then back again to 2002 (EB3-ROW in the last 3 years), it is easy to conclude that up until now, USCIS and DOS have been gambling with the dates. So the October bulletin could mean one of two things: 1) Either they have valid data now and the dates for this bulletin are realistic, which would be good because at least we would know now where we stand or 2) They are still gambling, which is neither good or bad, because with the previous history of movement in the dates, the dates could go back to 2006 again or even further...
The best example to illustrate this is EB3-ROW:
1) Back in October 2006, this category was on 01MAY02. Very close to where it is right now.
2) DOS was not getting enough visas from USCIS, so they increased the date. By May of 2007 (Same Fiscal Year) the date was 01AUG03.
3) They still didn't get enough visas. So, by June of 2007 they moved it to 01JUN05.
4) The July 07 bulletin happened and after that everything became unavailable.
5) Then in October 2007, when the USCIS had not revised any of the July 07 applications, the DOS still didn't know what to expect, so they went back to 01AUG02.
6) Again, they didn't get enough applications, so they moved the date up. By January 08 they were in 15OCT02. And in Jun, they went all the way to 01JAN06. Then they became unavailable again.
7) In October of 2008 the date was in 01JAN05, which means that USCIS was not done with the July 07 cases and DOS didn't know what to expect. In April of this year they go back to 2003 (some I-485s that were received back in 2007 getting approved?) and then they became unavailable.
8) Now in October 2009 they are back in 2002.
With dates going from 2001 to 2005 then back to 2002 then up to 2006 then back again to 2002 (EB3-ROW in the last 3 years), it is easy to conclude that up until now, USCIS and DOS have been gambling with the dates. So the October bulletin could mean one of two things: 1) Either they have valid data now and the dates for this bulletin are realistic, which would be good because at least we would know now where we stand or 2) They are still gambling, which is neither good or bad, because with the previous history of movement in the dates, the dates could go back to 2006 again or even further...
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InTheMoment
09-03 02:13 PM
Your Welcome Notice serves as your approval notice. There are only two envelopes that one gets and you got both (Welcome Notice and Cards envelopes)
I got the welcome notice in mail.
I got the cards in the mail.
I did not get the 'approval notice' yet(mailed on aug 22).
Does it matter?
I got the welcome notice in mail.
I got the cards in the mail.
I did not get the 'approval notice' yet(mailed on aug 22).
Does it matter?
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jindhal
09-24 11:42 PM
Guys this year's party is pretty much over :rolleyes:....whts the point debating something whether right or wrong which pretty much nobody can do anything about except went frustration from whichever side of the isle one sits on.....
As per Mr C.O. of USCIS I guess they have sent out the party invitation for the year so I guess there is no point sniping at each other. New inivitations will start from July next yr...;)
Take a chill pill guys....its a weekend.....get a beer....enjoy life( beleive me GC or no GC these days will not come by:make the most) :D
I agree..
As per Mr C.O. of USCIS I guess they have sent out the party invitation for the year so I guess there is no point sniping at each other. New inivitations will start from July next yr...;)
Take a chill pill guys....its a weekend.....get a beer....enjoy life( beleive me GC or no GC these days will not come by:make the most) :D
I agree..
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webm
04-30 01:09 PM
Any realistic numbers how many EB3 India pending cases are there with PDs in each of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ...
This was suspense every time..:(
Anyone has this info/links to share??
This was suspense every time..:(
Anyone has this info/links to share??
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02-12 08:25 PM
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For all those who are from India or believe in the Hindu gods and are ready to offer a prayer for Mehul.
Here is a link --> http://www.geocities.com/siddhaashram/Mahamrityunjaya.htm
Read it about 108 times on his behalf preferrably on Monday or you can do it 11 times until December 8th as this is an auspicious month for Lord Shiva.
Good luck Mehul. I also sent you a PM.
For all those who are from India or believe in the Hindu gods and are ready to offer a prayer for Mehul.
Here is a link --> http://www.geocities.com/siddhaashram/Mahamrityunjaya.htm
Read it about 108 times on his behalf preferrably on Monday or you can do it 11 times until December 8th as this is an auspicious month for Lord Shiva.
Good luck Mehul. I also sent you a PM.
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simple1
05-05 02:57 AM
Agreed it is the state dept not uscis.
We should not mix the interpretation of eb2/3 visas with other immigrant visas including other eb due to perm.
Could Please ask the lawyer this following question about statedept eb2/3 visa allocation to non-perm derivatives ?
--
* eb 2/3 generally require perm except for very rare cases. right ?
The employer petitions for 1 permanent-employee. With assurance that the 1 person doesn’t displace local workforce (existing citizen and gc). How come state department allocates additional visa (more than approved) to derivative(s) who is not "perm labor certified" from a quota/poll (eb2/3) that mandates labor market test like perm ? (while the actual qualification is fb2a)
* State department also burns the eb2/3 visa allocated for US-businesses to bring in much needed skilled eb2/3 labor ? while most real primaries wait, the visa gets allocated to non-productive derivatives ?
Is state dept making mistake ?
--
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
We should not mix the interpretation of eb2/3 visas with other immigrant visas including other eb due to perm.
Could Please ask the lawyer this following question about statedept eb2/3 visa allocation to non-perm derivatives ?
--
* eb 2/3 generally require perm except for very rare cases. right ?
The employer petitions for 1 permanent-employee. With assurance that the 1 person doesn’t displace local workforce (existing citizen and gc). How come state department allocates additional visa (more than approved) to derivative(s) who is not "perm labor certified" from a quota/poll (eb2/3) that mandates labor market test like perm ? (while the actual qualification is fb2a)
* State department also burns the eb2/3 visa allocated for US-businesses to bring in much needed skilled eb2/3 labor ? while most real primaries wait, the visa gets allocated to non-productive derivatives ?
Is state dept making mistake ?
--
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
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Libra
08-20 12:38 PM
Dude, what makes you feel better? let me try, my case pd is Mar 18th 2005, RD july 2nd 2007 and ND July 28th 2007.
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
It is assigned to officer on 28th June, no issues with case, all are in place like name check, background check, finger prints valid till next year, officer touched my case on july 12th and 28th, no RFE sent so far as per IO and don't know why it is still sitting on officers desk. I did everything SR, 2 infopass, senators, congresswomen, Ombudsman, NSC follow up emails, SCOPSSCATTA email, nothing worked so far.
I think you will leave the boat before me, good luck.
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
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07-07 12:05 PM
Hi,
Please join NC state
chapter if you have not yet. I am also talking to couple of members from Raleigh and we thinking to go and meet senator Burr if we get appointment. I will keep you in the loop. We can discuss this on our state chapter.
Thank you for your interest.
I live in Raleigh, NC and am willing to come to DC. I will try and check if any of my friends are interested.
Please join NC state
chapter if you have not yet. I am also talking to couple of members from Raleigh and we thinking to go and meet senator Burr if we get appointment. I will keep you in the loop. We can discuss this on our state chapter.
Thank you for your interest.
I live in Raleigh, NC and am willing to come to DC. I will try and check if any of my friends are interested.
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raja_123
09-26 07:42 PM
my lawyer received receipt for all - AOS, EAD, and AP from NSC. :)
the application was mailed on Aug 6, 2007.
the application was mailed on Aug 6, 2007.
santb1975
05-23 03:19 PM
I sent 2 emails to CA senators and 13 more. I will send out more emails tonigt and will contact the media as well
eb3retro
07-19 07:24 PM
the above poster summarized it very good. here are some of my thoughts..
1) we can come up with a formal letter (standard one) which is well written and can be faxed to USCIS director or emailed.
2) we can also fax/email the same letter to ombudsman so that they are aware of this issue.
in my gut feeling ombudsman is as close as we can get to uscis if we need visibility to this. optionally we can use the same letter to send it to the senators/congressman.
The letter should be short, precise, upto the point, without any spelling mistakes, well written. if u look at this post itself, you could very well decide that i am not suitable for that job. can someone in eb3-I who has a good writing skill come up with such a letter and so that we can try what ever we can from our end. its every dog's battle here. and if sanyahari is fighting, its his / her right to do so. so what do u say folks?
1) we can come up with a formal letter (standard one) which is well written and can be faxed to USCIS director or emailed.
2) we can also fax/email the same letter to ombudsman so that they are aware of this issue.
in my gut feeling ombudsman is as close as we can get to uscis if we need visibility to this. optionally we can use the same letter to send it to the senators/congressman.
The letter should be short, precise, upto the point, without any spelling mistakes, well written. if u look at this post itself, you could very well decide that i am not suitable for that job. can someone in eb3-I who has a good writing skill come up with such a letter and so that we can try what ever we can from our end. its every dog's battle here. and if sanyahari is fighting, its his / her right to do so. so what do u say folks?
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